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earlier today after a brief pursuit, he shot himself dead inside his car. >> we would prefer that it had not ended thi way because there are a lot of questions i'm sure that not only the family but the city in general would have had for steve. >> the hunt for stephens started on easter sunday when police say he executed 74-year-old man at random on a cleveland street. we have a team of reporters and analysts covering the developments in this breaking story. but let's start with nbc's jacob rascon who is in cleveland. jacob, what is the very latest abouhow this happened and what they believe stephens was doing at the time? >>eporter: so, earlier today, we know that already yesterday it was that they had a ping from his cell phone and they were looking into that. so they looked around the erie, pennsylvania area, they didn't find anything. at that time they had extended the search to not only pennsylvania but the other surrounding states.
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after still finding nothing, they extended the search nationwide and were receiving hundreds of tips. then today somebody at a mcdonald's called 911 and said we think that we see this man, this person, steve stephens, who's wanted. and in fact the police came to that mcdonald's on buffalo road and they spotted him in his white ford fusion. they tried to stop him. when he didn't stop they pursued him. it only lasted about two miles. when they tried a pit maneuver where they slam into the car and try to turn it sideways. and after they did that, they say that stephens took a handgun to his head and shot himself. this comes after of course easter sunday that murder that was uploaded to facebook that shocked those who saw it, of course, and anybody who's heard about it. it has prompted a lot of questions for facebook itself. that of course was taken down after a couple of hours and this nationwide manhunt has prompted a very impressive public
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response. i mean hundreds of tips we're talking about from fifphiladelp to texas to detroit. people calling in saying they think they saw the ford fusion or the man himself. now the btom line is that since sunday now, them looking for this man, that he has been found and he killed himself right there near mcdonald's in erie, pennsylvania. >> norman 400 tips. jacob, do police have any idea what the motivation could have been? have they learned anything new? >> i mean he himself took to facebook to say that it was his ex-girlfriend's fault for making him mad, this and that. and the ex-girlfriend is cooperating with police. but, you know, they really don't know. they in fact are still wanting people to call in 1-800-call-fbi if they have any tips or anything else that might have been going on. one other thing that i'll mention. just 20 minutes ago or so "the new york times" reported that stephens was in fact going
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through a drive-through ordering chicken nuggets and french fries and that an employee noticed who he might have been and tried to hold his french fries and called police at the same time. and then he took off. i called that mcdonald's right before live shot and said is this that mcdonald's where he got the french fries and he got the chicken nuggets and then took off? they said, yes, it is, we're not supposed to answer questions. but, yes. that's what happened right before he was spotted and right before he took his own life. katy? >> nbc's jacob rascon in cleveland. clint van zandt is an msnbc contributeser and former fbi profiler. on the phone, jim cavanaugh, an nbc law enforcementnimal lialys former hostage negotiator for the atf. clif when the police get a tip that they believe is one that they should pursue like they did in
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erie, pennsylvania, describe for me what sort of dragnet takes place? >> well, they had a pretty good tip. erie was about 100 miles away. it was easy driving distance from cleveland. you got a ping on a cell phone. you know that's his cell phone. bottom line is, that's the best lead they had right then. so that's when you start to saturate the area. you put different law enforcement agencies, you put their cars in, you put helicopters up, you put planes up, you start checking the cheap hotels and motels. you start looking at inexpensive restaurants. look, if this guy only got 100 miles in two days, he had no escape plan. he didn't know where he was going. katy, this is one of these situations, we know the "what." what happened. he killed somebody. and the "why" i think is starting to come out. jim cavanaugh, myself, we look at guys like this over the years. and when someone is hopeless and
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helpless, they've got financial problems, girlfriend problems, job problems, every issue in the world. this guy i think -- i'm not making excuses at all, but this is the type of person who gives up on life. now many times when you give up, when you've got that hopeless, helpless feeling, you go find help somewhere, or, unfortunately, people commit suicide. in this particular case, it appears he sought out this victim, this just a man on street. who did that represent? did it represent himself, kind of metaphorically? did he have t victim speak his girlfriend's name so that was the last words on his ls as he shot him? he took the absolute "why" to his death. but these are the things we have to understand. when people psychologically are getting to the edge, we need to find a way they can reach out and get help before they commit two murders. in essence the murder of this innocent man, and then of course the murder of himself vis-a-vis
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suicide. >> jim, he also said in that facebook video that he killed other people. i know police have been checking that out to try and find out if that is true. so far they've not turned anything up to suggest that it is true. but where are police looking now to make sure that it is not true? >> well, i think they've done a pretty good sweep of abandoned buildings. you always worry about homele homelessness, when guys are prowling the streets like stephens was. even the victim was just a pedestrian on the street in an industrial area. i'm sure they're checking those places if they haven't already done that. i agree with everything clint said. i think the motives that surround this violent crime are power and revenge. power because this guy, stephens, uploads this video on facebook. not facebook live but he uploaded the murder video. he's trying to show to grab a
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little power in this situation, a little power over cleveland. he also had the victim say the name of his girlfriend who he's extremely angry at as a sort of revenge on her. she's the reason, he says. she's the reason you're going to die. so that's the revenge on her. he wants her to know about this. he posted it. that's the power over her. that's the revenge on her. not only her though. the larger community because of his financial losses, his gambling losses. so justuilding on what clint said. clint was in that behavioral animal cy analyst unit. those guys can really give you the help you need. but to boil it down to the essence why the violent crime occurred, in this case i think it will turn out to be power and revenge. that's why he did it.
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>> clint, you've said people don't just snap, that this doesn't just happen all of a sudden. how do people stop this from happening? how do police stop this from happening? how do loved ones stop this from happening? >> you know, one of the scary things in this is that mr. stephens himself was a social worker. he worked with troubled young people. he worked with other individuals who needed perhaps job intervention or even psychological intervention. so we fall back to the old physician. and obviously he's not an m.d. or psychologist. but he, love anybody, should have seen the challenges he has. but katy, like many of us, it's kind of a gradual slope. this guy over -- stephens -- over the last two to four years he's lost money gambling, he got kicked out of a couple of apartments because he didn't pay his rent, he owed $35,000, $40,000 when he was only making
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$28,000 a year. then when his girlfriend breaks up with him, all of these add up, katy. let's say each of these incidents weighs two or three ounces. we say, well, gee, that's not much. but you put them on a scale and all of a sudden this guy's got two wounds worth -- pounds wort problems. it took a gradual period of time. what others want to know is why now? we understand what he did. we understand maybe why he did it but why that particular day? what was the final straw that broke the camel's back? if we can start to identify those, maybe, just maybe law enforcement can start intervening when they run into somebody like this and get them help. >> clint van zandt and jim cavanaugh, appreciate your time. facebook, as we know, is getting roundly criticized for allowing this video to get posted on to its site. mark zuckerberg addressed it
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today. we'll talk more about that a little bit later in the hour. but on the same subject, we are asking in today's microsoft pulse, should facebook increase its filtering of violent or graphic content. the pulse is now live. so far, 84% of you say yes, they should absolutely do that. add your voice in at happening now in wisconsin, you are taking a live look at president arriving in kenosha, air force one touching down moments ago. next the political odds of turning georgia's sixth district blue. voting under way right now. if a democrat wins today's special election, what message is it going to accepted to washington? tech: when your windshield needs to be fixed...
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back with politics and the big race down in georgia. democrats are hoping to flip the sixth congressional district. voting is under way right now to fill tom price's congressional seat. a lone democrat holds the momentum in these final hours. john ossoff spoke to msnbc's ali velshi earlier. >> the atmosphere, the energy is electric in georgia right now. the early reports are that turnout is high. we're doing everything we can to encourage folks to make their voices heard and to make history here in georgia by flipping the sixth district. >> with the gop's edge waning, president trump is trying to tip the scales recording robo calls
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against ossoff. the question is, if democrats win, can it be considered a referendum on trump and what does it say about the mid-terms, not to mention 2020? let's get right to nbc's kasie hunt who joins me from sandy springs, georgia. is turnout high? >> it is all going to come down to turnout, katy. haven't you heard? every time. well, look. the reality is, there is more enthusiasm here it seems to me from many polling places. i know you've stood outside plenty of them as well. there are quite a few for a special election on an unexpected time in just a house race of people coming back and forth here. i talked to several voters who were coming in and out. the one thing that i think we're looking for are those -- and they tend to be college educated conservatives who have decided that because of president trump, they don't want to vote republican anymore.
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you saw that a lot in the presidential year, president trump only won by 1 1/2 percentage points here. tom price hung on to the seat by about 20 points. the question is how permanent is that, and is there going to be an influx of new voters in to this special election. ossof ossoff, i talked to him yesterday. he is a bit of a millennial. a bit of a wonk. he wouldn't answer my question whether hans solo shot first in "star wars." but there is going to be a lot of democratic hearts broken if he doesn't pull it out here tonight. he needs of course 50% to avoid a run-off. >> right now polls show him breaching 50%. if he doesn't, how hard does it get for him to win in a runoff as focus gets focused on one republican? >> right. the thinking right now is that it would be much tougher for him to win in a head-to-head race.
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sense is the congress von ventional dynamics of the district would be more likely to take over. people would have a better idea of why or who they were focusing their vote around, and also republican money would be likely to be concentrated in one place. but on the other hand, if democrats -- i think they acknowledge there could be an "x" factor. the polls may not be picking up these people who were surprised that donald trump won the presidential election. if there is enough people like that who want to do something about president trump, then i think you could see ossoff pull it out. >> we'll find out if polling can be trusted again or whether polling isomething tt's a reliable indicator of how an election is going to turn out. so much we're going to learn today, kasie hunt down there sandy springs, georgia. karen mckinney, ryan williams, and greg blustein.
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greg, since it is your state, i'm going to start with you. tell me a little bit about the sixth congressional district and why it is changed for this election. after all, republicans have held that seat since the 1980s. >> yeah, it is a very conservative establishment republican-friendly suburban atlanta district. very affluent, very highly educated but not your typical trump stronghold. many voters there were very skeptical of donald trump. marco rubio won the primary last year and trump only won by 2% of the votes. democrats really hope the skepticism toward trump mixed with john ossoff's rise can help them flip the district. >> how did a 30-year-old investigative filmmaker get here? >> even people in democratic circles had never heard of him before when he announced in january he was running.
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he's raised more than $8.3 million and only 1 of 20 in his donors nationally came from the state of georgia. heas sortf the face, embodiment of this anti-trump wave. he's used that money to flood the district with ads, with flyers. you can't turn on your tv, your computer at home, your car without hearing one of john ossoff's ads. >> karen, if the democrats couldn't do it in cans, thkansa makes you say they can do it in georgia? >> you know, i think in farther because john also represents what people are saying they want in terms of antiestablishment. right? as you pointed out, he kind of came out of nowhere. that is what our democracy is really supposed to be about, men and women who want to put themselves forward for public service. so here's this young man. he's got a great background. he's been working very hard and i think he represents, again, potentially an opportunity for an anti-trump vote, but i think
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also an opportunity for an anti-establishment vote. i think one of the things the democratic party hasn't paid close enough attention to in the aftermath of the 2016 election was the strength of the third party voting that we saw by millennials, and particularly millenials of color. to have a young person, a millennial, if you will, on the ballot, not an establishment guy, able to raise the money and take on the establishment and win, i think that would be a fantastic message for the party going forward. >> guys, as you know, everybody loves a hot take. mayor casim reed had a bit of his observe hot take earlier. >> the fact of the matter is this is a suit that sent newt gingrich to the house as speaker. this is the seat that sent senator isaacson to the united states senate, and this is the seat that sent secretary price to the president's administration. a typical republican should be
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winning in seat by 20, 24 points. and as we stand here right now, john ossoff is winning with 45% to 46% of the vote after president trump won it by a point. >> it is so good to see his face because i usually only hear his voice at the atlanta airport. anyone who goes down there quite a bit will back me up on that. but ryan, the fact that republicans are so worried about this district, the fact that it is so close, that it is a toss-up, according to "the cook report," what's that say about 2018, and is it fair to make a prediction about 2018 with something that's going on in -- what are we? in april of 2017? >> i think we're reading too much into whatever the results are in this election. it is a special election. it will be about turnout. obviously dps are energized right now. that's not unusual for the party out of power in a cycle. i wouldn't read too much into the results but i do think that ossoff has a small chance to win tonight but i don't think that he will do it. he's someone that as the campaign has progressed more
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things have come out about him embellishing his resume. he can't even vote in the district. he's supported by hollywood liberals like jane fonda who are wildly out of step with voters in the district. there isn't really a chance for him in the general given the makeup of the district and the republicans have a pretty bloody primary going on. once we have one candidate, we'll be in a position to win. >> president trump's first tp to wisconsin since that state helped him win in november. he'll be touting his messages of jobs, jobs, jobs. how worried are republicans in general though about this president? there was a whole lot of discomfort about him going into the election. obviously he won so that eased a lot of concerns. but it's been a tumultuous 80 days. is there a concern that at the's
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going to be able to stabilize things so that it doesn't become a blow-out potentially for them and for the democrats in 2018? >> i think there was some concerns and some early speed bumps given that he hadn't been a politician before and needed to get used to being in elected office. but he has a string of victories recently. >> do you this believe he's really going to fundamentally change and suddenly become more presidential? >> i think we're seeing it now. he's someone who analyzed what was going on on the ground in syria with the use of chemical weapons. made a change in course from what he said during the campaign. launched a very good tactical strike. he did get a conservative justice named and approved which is what he promised to do during the campaign. i think there is a lot of optimism as he begins to learn the ropes and hopefully we can get some legislative accomplishments heading into the summer as we head into health care and tax reform. >> guys, thank you very much for joining me today. the president, as we just said a moment ago, is wheels down in wisconsin. trump just walked off air force one and will soon sign an
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president trump touched down in wisconsin just a few minutes
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ago. it is his first visit to the state since it helped put him in the white house. he's heading to kenosha to tout his promise of jobs, jobs, jobs. the president will visit snapon tools and sign a buy american/hire american executive order. "the washington post" says it wants to make it harder for tech companies to replace american workers for cheaper foreign workers and harder for contrafo contractors to bid on projects. ron mott is in kenosha. >> katy, the president's 20 nutes away or so after touching down at the airport. this is the president trying to emphasize his populism themes. they are calling this executive order buy american/hire american the cornerstone of the president's efforts to highlight the american worker and american manufacturers. that's why we're here at this company's snapon tools which has its world headquarters in
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kenosha, wisconsin. this is also the home district of house speaker paul ryan, but he is not here today. but again the focus of this executive order is to essentially enforce existing laws that help american workers and american companies get a fair shake in the marketplace. this is perhaps how the administration would frame it. in particular, this is a focus on this hb1 visa which helps so many foreign students to come here to study. this goes to graduate level students, 20,000 additional visas to higher level students. tech industry says these workers to do jobs americans can't do. the criticism is that they are paid low wages and undercut american workers. this is the president trying to focus on american first, american workers, american manufacturers. that's why he's here in the heartland. >> ron allen in wisconsin, thank you very much. that is what president trump
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will be talking about today. something he probably won't be talking about? his tax returns. in case you forgot, today is the deadline to file your taxes and it is -- >> he promised during the campaign he would reveal them after this, he would reveal them after that. oh, then he'd put it off. >> do you think he ever will? >> i don't know, but i'll tell you this. i think that people are going to keep demanding it and they're zbrg to ke going to keep demanding it and makingheir voices heard. >> right now the white house is sticking to their storyeaving fellow republicans to defend the president at home. >> is it time to say once and for all the president is never going to release his tax returns? >> we'll have to get back to you on that. i think he is still under audit. statement still stands. >> as far as i'm aware, the president says he's still under audit.
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>> here's a few reminders for our viewers at home. trump's tax returns this year will be audited. it is mandatory. the irs has audited every president and vp every year since watergate. trump may say he is under audit for last year's taxes but there is no way to independently confirm that. the irs is not allowed to comment on anyone's taxes, period. we have asked the president repeatedly for proof of the audit in the form of the irs letter. he has declined. we have also asked repeatedly to see past returns not under aide dit. he has declined. reporters cannot force donald trump to release his taxes. only the american voters can and they can do that by way of the polling booth. joining me now, politico chief investigative reporter ken vogel and "washington post" political reporter, phil rucker. phil, i know you get that question on twitter all the time, ask donald trump to see his taxes, repeatedly, repeatedly. obviously the white house is only going to do what donald
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trump says they can do. they're using the audit excuse. how much longer will they be using this excuse, especially since they won't verify that he is actually under audit? >> well, i think they're going to use whatever excuse they can come up with at the time to continue to punt this issue, to not release his tax returns. i don't think he's ever going to release his tax returns unless he somehow feels like it is in his personal interest to do so. that could be a greater intensity of the political pressure. it could come up, frankly, in the tax reform debate. we're starting to hear democrats say we're not going to have this conversation about tax reform until we know what the president's tax returns look like and we can determine whetr the president himself would personally benefit from some of the changes that he's advocating in the tax code. so potentially it could be an issue down the road but i would not put my money on it. i don't think we're going to see those tax returns. >> ken, democrats do stone wall on tax reform before they see
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president trump's taxes. who's going to lose out there? are the democrats going to lose out with voters who say we want tax reform regardless of whether or not it benefits donald trump, or will donald trump ultimately lose out with his voters who say just show your tax returns so the democrats will sign off? >> i think the tax reform -- the tax return issue is somewhat manufactured. it definitely animates the base on the left. i think let so on the right. trump has pointed out he won without showing his tax returns. that's right. from a transparency perspective, obviously we should see them. and from a tradition perspective we should see them. and as a reporter, i would love to see them because i think there are probably some very interesting stories in there. as far as animating the voters, swing voters who decide these elections, to come out and support democrats over republicans in 2018 or in some of these special elections or to potentially support a democrat over donald trump in 2020, i don't think the tax returns is an issue that's going to really drive a mass of opposition to
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donald trump. >> phil, do we have any idea why he does not want to release his tax returns? is it because he has not made as much money as he said he does? is it because he is maybe overleveraged to a foreign country? do we have any idea of what could be in there? >> i don't know what's in his heart and sort of what his personal reason is. certainly there are things we could speculate about such as the tax returns could show some sort of foreign investments or perhaps conflicts of interest or perhaps it wouldn't show he was making as much income as he said he was worth. at one point during the campaign he said he was worth $10 billion. to a point, ken was just making earlier, it's right that this is not necessarily a motivating issue for a t of voters but the polling consistently shows that a majority of americans want to see his tax returns. so when the white house says that the american people just don't care about this issue, that's just not true. the polling shows that the american people do care about the issue and do want to see his tax returns. >> it is certainly white house spin to say the american voter does not care. if they did care, donald trump
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wouldn't be elected. they do have some leg to stand on with that. but as you are right, phil rucker, most americans do want to see those taxes. but given the fact that donald trump won't release it and given the fact that now the white house is not releasing things like visitor logs, ken, does this white house have a transparency problem? >> oh, absolutely. i mean the visitor log is a good case in point. but we go back to the campaign. by see they didn't release their bundlers. this is something that's become a tradition in sort of modern, big money campaign finance. they didn't do that. they were not forthcoming about where they were holding fund-raisers and who was attending or hosting fund-raisers. this is all information that's helpful for us as reporters to inform our listeners, readers or viewers what donald trump is about and where his alliances are and where his potential conflicts of interest are. i think that if we were able to get that information from the visitors logs, from bundler repor reports, from his taxes, it
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might change voters' opinions. but as just a stand-alone issue where we're hammering away and saying he hasn't released the tax returns or the white house visitor logs be wi, i don't thi voters care so much as much as their own issues as health care, and even war and peace. >> politico's ken vogel and phil rucker of the "washington post," thank you guys both for joining me. next up, mark zuckerberg has spoken publicly for the first time since that brutal murder in cleveland was uploaded to his site. does the social media site bear responsibility? we'll discuss. ♪"all you need is love" plays my friends know me so well. they can tell what i'm thinking, just by looking in my eyes. they can tell when i'm really excited and thrilled. and they know when i'm not so excited and thrilled. but what they didn't know was that i had dry, itchy eyes.
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stephens, killed himself in pennsylvania. we expect a 3:30 p.m. news conference from police in erie. but that video is now raising new questions about violent content posted to facebook and how the site responds. jennifer greigel is a professor of communications at syracuse university school of public communications. jennifer, thanks for joining us. do you think that mark zuckerberg said enough today? by our count, that was about 23 seconds, that comment. >> absolutely not. i'm actually shocked to hear that he even needed a reminder of all the work that he needs to do. he owns the largest social media company in the world. he owns facebook, messener, what'sapp, instagram and a slew of other countries. he knows exactly how much work he needs to do. he knows how his company is run, how many active monthly users he has and how many active content
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moderators he has. i don't think we can just take that at face value and think that's enough. >> what can he do? >> for starters, he needs to evaluate his company and start to add more b sources. there definitely is not enough content moderation that's happening as we just saw with this crisis, this video was uploaded and it sat on the servers for over three hours. he's not doing enough. there's a lot of risk in exposure and i'm holding a high bar over here. i think we need to see him do a lot more. >> why hasn't he done more? >> i think it is because the industry has grown so fast. he, by far, has the largest company in the world. there's no regulation that's holding his feet to the fire. he's essentially reactive to issues instead of being proactive with his company. there's very little transparency in to this. we have no idea how many content moderators around the world are actually working on these systems. and i was surprised -- i'm actually shocked to hear that there's only a small team of
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heading out to california now where federal agents are taking undocumented immigrants into custody today. nbc's gadi schwartz was exclusively with i.c.e. agents in the los angeles area this morning and spoke with one of the men taken in. >> reporter: hi, katy. a little bit earlier we were with i.c.e. agents as they were going out looking for what they called targeted suspect, targeted people that they had determined to be criminal aliens and they have targeted them for deportation. we have followed them throughout that entire process, fm the streets where they were watching some of these homes, all the way hereo detention center where some of those people are
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now being detained. i'm joined by one of those men that was the target of this operation. esteban, tell me, we saw it from our side. we saw agents kind of looking in to where people were moving and waiting for people to come outside. what was it like from your perspective? >> i was surprised the way it happened. i was actually expecting for them to come knock on my door. and here i am. but looked like they were kind of hunting me. because once i went to work, about a mile from there, they just stopped me for -- i didn't commit no -- >> traffic -- >> nothing. i was kind of surprised when they pull me over. when they asked me to -- for my information, then i realize it was the police i.c.e. then i was not surprised because i knew i had a i.c.e. hold.
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it was just the way it happened. it was kind of surprising the way they're doing it now. >> have you known that this day has been coming? >> i knew it was coming, but i'm surprised. i didn't know when it was going to happen. i was not hiding. i was at my home. they had my information so i was not riding. i was following instructions from my parole officer and going to work and doing everything the way the law says you have to do it. >> me a little bit about why you were on probation? >> i was on parole for burglary. i was in prison for two years. i got released on the 20th of january this year. they were supposed to pick me up at the prison where i was staying at the ctf, but they
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didn't. they released me. i was surprised why they released me. they were supposed to deport me. >> from the perspective of the political climate going on right now, you are basically what president trump would call a bad hombre. when you hear that, what do you think? >> um, in a certain way, it's true. i'm a felon. i realize that in the process of detaining me they say if i was to be driving with a relative without a legal status, i think that person would be here too. >> that person would be swept up without a criminal record? >> what's your message to people who are undocumented in the united states? >> my message would be to do the
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right thing. don't commit any crimes or do something illegal that it's going to bring it to this level. you see my record. it's something that started when i was a teenager and it kept going and kept going and i never took the responsibility to get it fixed. >> if you are deported to mexico, what happens? are you going to try to come back? >> i'm going to stay there. i did plenty of time already for this country. >> the crimes that you committed here? >> i'm not willing to do no more free time. i want to start a new life and be a good citizen. >> what's your message to your family? >> they are doing good. they are doing great. they have done the right thing. they are prosperous and have a family and nephews and nieces that were born here and they are the first ones that have been
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able to go to university and graduated from universities. they are doing great. >> what's your message to them? >> keep doing what they are doing. >> you will be in touch? >> i will in touch with them for sure. they can travel back and forth. >> from mexico to the united states? >> yeah. >> thank you so very much for speaking to us. >> no problem. >> that's one of the stories we are seeing. we have a few more people we have talked to. similar stories we are hearing from them as well. we will share those later on msnbc. back to you. >> gotti schwartz in los angeles. some say could tip the scales in favor of uber drivers. here's today's the verge. >> the taxi and limousine commission could force force riders to tip drivers. it has long been a practice, but
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on twitter. kate snow picks things up right now. >> good to see you and hello. i'm snow. we are expecting it hear from the president in kenosha, wisconsin and this is in his wheel topics. a pair of topics near and dear to his heart. jobs and immigration. at the start of his buy american hire american movement he is calling it. we will bring thaw in a moment. let's get to it. ron allen in kenosha waiting for the president. julia preston is from a news organization and white house reporter for the "wall street journal" and contributor ron insana. they round out our fantastic group. ron, sorry about that. i will get to that in a second. let's start with ron allen with the president traveling in kenosha. let me know what to expect. it's buy american and jobs for
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americans. what else do we expect? >> the president is here at snap on tools. their world headquarrs, a tool makehey're makes tools from the auto industry to aerospace. she here in the heartland, the state he won for the first republican since the 1984 election. this is his base. this is where he spread the message about populism and jobs and america first and american workers. that's what he is trying to do. he has credibility issues on businesses and criticism that he in the united states hired foreign workers. details on which we don't know a lot about. we have access and the financial records. a lot of that is being handled in the trust. he is here to sign the executive orders on stage in a public way. to galvanize his message that he is for american workers. the executive order


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